Sunday, June 3, 2007

7200 price pls

does anyone know if its on pay as you go and if so how much is it please
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3000 dhs
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530 Euro in the netherlands (phone house)
490 Euro in Germany (Nowicom.com)


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6600 camera setting and problem...

What's the difference between High, Medium and Low in the camera photo quality setting?...I found that there is only difference in memory usage...High quality will gain more memory while Low will use less memory...I tried to capture some photos with High, Medium and Low setting...but I found that those photos are the same...any idea??

I found another problem with my camera setting...I tun on the camera and go to setting...when I switch the quality to Low...and then I switch the quality again to Medium...then I am unable to get back to the camera by pressing the Back button...I gotta exit and turn the camera on again....anyone experience this???
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Due to different JPEG compression methods, there are three image quality options: High, Normal, and Basic. This affects the image quality and file size, not the resolution. If you use 1 MB of memory for images only, the Nokia 6600 phone would fit approximately 22 Normal quality images taken in Standard mode.

a basic picture takes about 18Kb, a Normal 45Kb, and a High about 68Kb.
in night modus more size is taken for a picture...
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For my 6600...a basic photo will take about 20kb....a normal one around 28kb....a high photo will just take about 35kb...why isit so much different from yours???

I still can't get the answer...usually I take photo in high quality...but today I found that the quality is no different between High normal and basic...so what is the point of using High quality?...what is the point of this option?...or there is different but I dun know?...who knows??
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that is the way Jpeg converts data....
Imaging you take a picture of a red background (solid)
the file will be only 5 Kb even less
take a picture of a red curtin (more shades) more data needed to save the file
and so on...
if you have a picture of a red house, with blue sky, green grass and brown tree, yellow car etc you have more data.

simple to explane;
a image exicist out of pixels, every pixel excest out of data what the color of that pixel is, and the color is split into RGB (RED, GREEN, and BLUE)
if R: 255 G: 255 B: 255 the color is white.
if R: 000 G: 000 B: 000 the color is Black
if R: 255 G: 000 B: 000 the color is Red
if R: 000 G: 000 B: 255 the color is blue
if R: 255 G: 255 B: 000 the color is yellow
if R: 000 G: 112 B: 175 you have the color of the Nokia logo
etc.
so with these you can make almost every color.
So in a RAW or TIFF image file every pixel is saved like
xxx,xxx,xxx as R,G,B
and so the image looks in data file like; 021,154,001:015,165,211:...,...,...:...,...,...
and so one...
but sometimes if some colors are the same and then the file will refer to them like a shortcut.
imagine a image data file:
021,154,001:015,165,211:154,021,164:154,045,165:12 1,145,005:021,154,001:021,154,001:021,154,001:165, 244,112:...,...,...:...,...,...:...
so the image editor will look at the code and it sees it has got the same data in the file 021,154,001 come alone 4 times
021,154,001 :015,165,211:154,021,164:154,045,165:121,145,005:021,154,001:021,154,001:021,154,001:165,244,112:...,...,...:...,...,...:...
You see? ok, a Jpeg will refer to that color the next 3 times like this
021,154,001[1]:015,165,211:154,021,164:154,045,165:121,145,005:1 :1:1:165,244,112:...,...,...:...,...,...:...
so instead of placing 9 ciffres it place 1, so less data
this method is used in high mode, data is saved, but didn't changed colors.
In Normal (medium) and (low) this method is used but they also look at colors
the difference in color of a 102,135,255 (baby blue) and a 100,135,255 (baby blue but a little bit more brighter) is not very much and optical you don't notice the deference at first sight. so they merge the color both to 101,135,255. so they can use the first technigue to convert, and again data is less.
in Low the range of colors merged is larger than in medium...
i hope you understand now?
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Tu!@ng Man
There is no reason why the pics should be the same. Maybe they only look the same on the phone?
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Of course with original picture squeezed to the small phone screen all of them would look the same. Try to zoom it up to 100% or compare those on PC - you'll see the difference.
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Yup...I compare all the photos in the pc...but after looking at it for about half an hour...I just found that...there is only different in the colour...in the basic quality...the colour may a little bit not as sharp as the one taken in High quality...that's all...it doesn't have any different in which one looks clearer...

I try to zoom all the pics as much as i can...still found that there is only different in the sharpness of the colour...for example a wall which is blue in colour...the basic quality one looks lighter blue...and the high quality one looks a bittttttt deeper...

Nothing to do with which one look clearer...all are blur in the same level....haha
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What you'd expect from a pinhead-size lens? To get crystal sharp stunning images you need big good optics in the first place.

That setting makes sense only because of JPEG compression is lossy - smaller the size - more data gets lost. "Better quality" means here that you can get more data from the same image, though depending on image that extra data could be irrelevant for perceptional picture quality.
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I just wish to know what's the different between the setting....what's wrong??

I know it is just a VGA camera...however...I am satisfied with quality...
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Hello you two,

You seem to know a bit about the 6600

I have a 6600 and i have bought a new memory card (128mb) I want to upload some small movie clips to my handset, like The Simpsons.

I cant find a 3GP encoder/converter, do either of you know where i could download one?

Thankyou, Dave
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the pc suit of 6600 will convert the clips itself to 3gp...but of course u have to set Convert all file type...

anyway...3gp is very bad in quality...use 3rd party application like Smartmovie or Mobiclip to play in AVI file type...much better quality...


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My views on the 7610

Discussion about the Nokia 7610:

In my view, the Nokia 7610 is a good phone. First of all, I like the small size (check out one of the photos with the T68i on the mobileburn.com website). Seems to be comfortable to fit in the pocket. Secondly, the 1 megapixel (!!!) camera will give good quality prints. I think the competitors to this feature are very few like the SE S700, Siemens S65, and some Tel.me 2.1 MP phone. The keyboard seems to be a bit weird looking, but after reading previews on many sites, the reviewers did mention that the keys were comfortable to use (unlike the confusing keys of the 3650). Plus it adds Reduced sized MMC cards, which I guess help in the phone’s small dimensions. I came to know from the Nokia site that the card comes with an adapter which can be used to use the card in phones with Standard MMC slots like 3650/3660/6600. So, they are backward-compatible. But I guess this RS-MMC is still a new type of memory and they’ll be expensive than normal ones.
The pop-port gives USB connectivity and Stereo audio (Finally!!!). And the 64 MB card gives enough space to use the phone as an mp3 player. But, I am not sure how good this AAC format is. Nokia’s site mentions that one can store upto 1 hr of MP3 music or 2 hrs of AAC music. I mean, does it really cut the file size to half? And what about quality? Has anyone used this format?
I guess the screen is the same as on the 6600. I don’t get it why Nokia decided to exclude Infra red. It would have blended perfectly with that black cover. Anyways, USB makes up for its loss. Another plus would be 8 MB dynamic memory. So one can play n-gage games without running out of RAM. Good to see that the RealOne player supports MP3 and AAC eliminating the need to install 3rd party software.
No EDGE support is a bad thing. I know that it’s not a widely used technology till now, but if Nokia can put it in a el-cheapo cameraphone like the 3200, why can’t it on this one?

Please feel free to post your views and opinions about this phone.
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Jørgen Sundgot from Infosyncworld.com

You'd think they had enough Series 60 phones in the market to attract everyone, but Nokia thinks otherwise: the introduction of the 7610 brings with it a new level of style to the Finnish manufacturer's smartphone offering - and it doesn't skimp on features either, with a one megapixel camera, RS-MMC expansion.

Sporting an unarguably quirky design, the 7610 looks like a stretched-out 7600 - yet offers no 3G features: GSM 900/1800/1900 MHz and GPRS is all there is, although in the name of all fairness that'll likely suit the market this particular handset is aimed at just fine. The strangest part of the handset would be its keypad, which swerves left towards the bottom, giving off the initial impression that left-handed users would be particularly happy with its design. It is, however, quite comfortable, unlike some other recent keypad design mishaps found in recent Series 60 smarthones, with the possible exception of the navigational pad which doesn't offer the best tactile feedback.

Naturally, the camera of the 7610 is placed on the back, joined by a mirror embedded in the cover of the phone - which, incidentally, will let users personalize the handset to their heart's extent as both the front and back covers are exchangeable. The camera provided excellent results, although the frame rate of the viewfinder did not surpass that found in previous Nokia smartphones. Worse is it then, that the overly simplistic icons in the default theme of the 7610 are outright ghastly, although a quick change of themes will of course remedy this; it's a good thing themes for Series 60 handsets are becoming available in increasing numbers.

With 8 MB of internal memory and a bundled 64 MB RS-MMC card, the 7610 should also be well equipped to store video, which it's capable of both recording and playing back. This is coupled with other interesting features such as Wireless Village-based instant messaging, and the usual full compliment of Series 60 applications. Overall performance seemed quite snappy, and and as a last bonus users also get USB connectivity in the 7610.
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The keypad sucks!!!!
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I dun think so...the keypad is ok...just maybe a little bit not comfortable while pressing them...cos of the different size of each button...

but at least it is much better than the 3650 one...and the design of the keypad is compatible with the phone...
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it looks like a really nice fone
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i love its unique keypad design!
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the design and quality may not comparable with many other brands...but Nokia interface and functionality is always the best for me...I love Nokia smartphone...for the 7610...the most attractive function for me is the video recording length of 10 minutes...!!!
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Amazing Phone, Had For A While, But Now Upgrading To Nokia 7280, Please Post Your Comments About That If You Can Please At:

http://www.mobile-review.com/forum2/...968#post192968



Many Thanks,
Harry2004
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Harry2004, if I was a moderator I'd have given you a warning for brining up such an old mobile phone thread!

This is nearly a year old and I don't think there was any point in bringing it up!

7280 is a woman's phone so I feel sorry for you!
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The keypad sucks!!!!
I disagree...


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nokia 7200

does anyone know if its on pay as you go and if so how much is it please
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around 500Euro initial price without contract


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Formating

I heard that smartphone can be formated and install a fresh / new copy of symbian. My question here is not only how, but also what are the gadget required too? Thanks in advance
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Symbian phone can be formated....but it is unable to reinstall another new Symbian...just after u format..u get the phone back to the original factory setting...just like our pc formatting....

However I dun know the way of formatting other symbian phone...I only know how to format a 6600...

switch off the 6600....then press the GREEN DIAL KEY + *KEY + 3KEY....While pressing these 3 buttons...never move off your finger...press the start up button together too until the screen shows "Formatting"...

After about 30 seconds...the 6600 will be formated...it is abit difficult to do it cos u gotto press four buttons at the same time while all the four buttons seperated very far away...
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In other word that is some sort of restoring too is it?
As you mention once you "format" it then I will get the phone back to the original factory setting.
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don't you just delete all data from the memory card?
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Ya that was what I thought when Tu!@ang Man explained, so I just want to know whether there is such thing in formating (like PC) the 6600? How? Any tools required?
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Formatting,described above will format phone memory available for user settings thus reverting to original factory settings. It has nothing to do with memory card. MMC can be formatted using supplied application.
System areas including OS are protected and can not be formatted with the phone. What would be the purpose of such formatting besides rendering phone dead? Much like PC it won't even boot without OS
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Would be funny if you could use an MMC to boot the OS, bring us back to the old days.
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MMC can be formatted by using the phone...it is an option format MMC in it...

The way I mentioned above is not only get your phone back to the original factory setting...but it clears all the memory inside your phone too...

For example...when u install thousands of application to your phone...and u delete them one by one...finally u will find that part of your memory has been used although all the items have been removed...or...there are some errors in your phone that annoying you...so...a fully format by the way I mentioned above will solve all the problems and u will have a "new" 6600 after a format is done...

this is the best I can explain...hope u all understand lah...
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MMC in the phone is just an extra storage.
You can't install fresh copy of Symbian simply because there is no way to get that copy.

BTW, user area gets formatted too if you select "Restore factory settings" from the menu or using *#7370# (=res0) command
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the way *#7370# is a normal restore factory setting...

the way i mentioned before...red dial key+*key+3Key+start up button....is a way of low level format...much more better...
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Originally posted by Tu!@ng Man
the way *#7370# is a normal restore factory setting...

the way i mentioned before...red dial key+*key+3Key+start up button....is a way of low level format...much more better...
Yeah, right... factory settings restore and user area format :-)
Factory settings assume blank user area too.

There's ain't no such thing as "low level format", Symbian file system is formatted in the same way.

I believe you meant GREEN dial key, not red
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ya...green dial key....sorry for that....

I was told that the way I mentioned is much more better than the code *#7370#....then what's the different between these 2 ways??
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What is low level format? What's the different between *#7370#?
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3-key format just clears user area, all required folders are created on a subsequent boot.

*#7370# also restores all factory settings (whatever you set in Settings menu).

Technically those two are slightly different, but you won't see any other difference.

Concerning "much better low-level format", making a parallel to PC, low-level HDD format can kill your disk beyond repairs (and warranty) nowadays, so you'd better think twice before attempting anything "low-level"
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I have formatted my 6600 for a few 10 of times by using the 3-keys way...so far nothing happen to it...
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There's ain't no such thing as "low-level format" in the phone, exposed to end-user
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so which one is better to use/?
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Format is always the same...
I had a feeling that 3-key format should have been removed from official SW, but for some reasons or just someone's negligence remained there. Technically it is a vulnerability - everyone can destroy user data easily, unlike restore factory settings it is not even slightly protected by security code/PIN or whatever.


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Thursday, May 31, 2007

Symbian vs Nokia Series 40

Which do you prefer and why?

Thanks guys...
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Symbian of course
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I'm looking for more a reason why though. I realize that Symbian is a more robust OS, allowing the user to use a number of applications. However, I also hear of problems resulting in crashes and delays...I'm just curious to know if the benefits outweigh the cons.

Thanks again for any input...

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I prefer symbian phones...

yup you are right...a lot of applications for symbian cause crashes and bring problems...but I just always read through some professional forums and seach for solutions...so far I am happy playing with my 6600...

Series 40 phones is much stable compare to the symbian phone...however...symbian phone will be much more interesting if you are prefer to spend more time on your phone....

so it just depends on whether u wan a stable phone for normal usage??...or u wanna have a great challenge from the symbian phone...
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depends how much u want out of a fone and wat purpose ur fone is used for
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Series 40 are solid and you can't change a lot... Software must be Java what is good, but not that good. Java can't access a lot of features like a symbian game/program can.
The menu is not changable what has his avantages that it's easier to use and you can work faster with it.
Series 40 are designed for small screen 128 x 128 and optimised for it.
Series 60 is symbian based, so you can change wall paper, a little bit the UI (add themes like you can do with windows). Use full program's, some are really good like Opera (webbrowser) RealOne (movie) Remote control (remote control by IR for TV, Radio etc)... and much more other standard features like Java (MIDP 2.0), CLDC 1.0, Wireless Messaging, Mobile Media, and Bluetooth; XHTML browsing over TCP/IP; MMS messaging with SMIL; and OMA DRM (forward-lock)...
Series 60 is also better because it's optimised for bigger screens 176 x 208 (more data on one screen)
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Symbian any day. The apps are much better. Series 40 is restricted to 128x128 pixels. That isn't good.
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But the series 40 is much smaller in size...much stable in the firmware...easier to use...
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Not that much easier to use. And I don't mind big phones. The functionality is what I care about.
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ya right...but my symbian 6600 is kinda very sensitive..a lot of 3rd party applications are unable to use in my 6600...causes lots of clashes....I dunno why...


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how i can convert avi/mpeg into 3gp movie on a pc plz help me or suggest me a softwar

hi friends m using nokia 3650 plz plz help me n tell me that how i can convert avi/mpeg to 3gp movies.or plz suggest me any kool and free software .................
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QuickTime from Apple supports the 3GPP and 3GPP2 formats so could play the files. If you wanted to convert files to that format though you'd need the Pro update which costs a small sum since there are royalties on MPEG4. There are substantial educational discounts if you're a student too.
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the Nokia pc suit will do that for u automatically when u use it to convert the video files to your phone...

make sure u have set convert all files in the setting of your pc suit...


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