Tuesday, June 5, 2007

Nokia 6230

Been using this phone since friday, and it's amazing! If you have any doubts about wether this phone is worth the wait or not, I'd say squash the doubts and wait for it. It has it all!

A perfect phone, with no problems or hiccups, as many rumours have been stating. And the supply is plenty too, where I work we been receiving phones continuously for the past week, peaking about 20 sales a day

Way to go Nokia!
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is there any problem with the bluetooth cause another member said that he cannot pair with his ipaq

can you please clarify this doubt and also see if there are any problems while pairing with BT headset

thanks in advance
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errrmmm...I care about the sreen...how is the screen quality and performance compare to 6600??

does it support truetones???

how about the quality of video streaming??...
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So far we have not experienced any problems with the bluetooth connection. Not to a bluetooth headset (nokia and SE) nor to laptops. Haven't had a chance to test the connection up to any ipaq yet.

The phone in general however is very stable and I have no concerns recommending it to other people This is the one to grab hehe
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The screen in itself is 128x128, but it has a true tft screen with 65k colors. In general the phone has a great screen if the 128x128 size doesn't bother you.

I would say the 6600 has a better size and it's more relaxing on the eyes in the long run I think, but it's prolly just a thing you need to get used to.

The quality of video streaming is good. It's not the greatest, it's not like it's taken with a 5megapixel cam, but it's good enough to capture a great video clip and record a good laugh

As far as the truetones go, I haven't had a chance to test'em myself, cuz I use mp3's as my ringtones. But I'll check it out and give ya a feedback on it.
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What about Music player for MP3 files ? Do you have MMC?
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And how long does your battery last?
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yes it has an mp3 player, plays MP3 and AAC, and it does have a 32MB MMC card which you can expand to atleast 128MB. I wouldn't use 3rd party MMC cards since Nokia said you'll lose the warranty. Then again I'm not sure Nokia has a way of knowing wether a 3rd party MMC card has been used or not..
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my battery lasted for 4 days. That was with intense use of camera, mp3 playing, radio and making several long phonecalls. So I'm very happy with the battery capacity.
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That is excellent!!! I think that you can use 3rd party MMC because I use them with SX1 and Nokia 6600 and they work just fine!
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I KNOW for a fact that you can use 3rd party MMC cards, my co worker did it today He put in a 128 MMC card and filled it up to the rim with mp3s hehe..so no worries bout that.
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I just read on alt.cellular.nokia that some people dont have caller groups, what about your phone?
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Igor82
this is indeed a know bug, but already repaired in the lastest sw version...
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expansys.com:
"the problem with the caller groups can be resolved by doing a reset. (return to factory settings). Afterwards the caller groups will work properly."

http://www.expansys.com/forumthread....8417&thread=19
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How many threads do we need on the 6230??
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I have caller groups on mine, so as stated, the problem has probably been fixed by now

The edge, as many as possible, cuz the phone is rawckin!
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Have You tested battery life only MP3 playback?
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wow...sounds greater than my 6600...wish to have one instead of my 6600...hehehe
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can not wait
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i heard the colour screen of n6230 is very "cramp" inside... the picture is not clear enough to be a TFT screen... is it ture?
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[QUOTE...I'm not sure Nokia has a way of knowing wether a 3rd party MMC card has been used or not.. [/quote]

It would be very easy to find this out. Maybe phone has some potential vulnerabilities, e.g. malicious code on accordingly formatted MMC - that is why they take no responsibility for 3rd party cards.
Of course they'd work fine.
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of course can't aspect too much from 6230 screen...but it will perform muh better than u think that it is cramp...it is just a 128x128....
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beside the size (which is "only" 128x128) is there any difference between 6230 and 6600 (or any other super-phone) in areas like:
- image quality of its screen
- pics quality viewed on its screen
- pics quality downloaded and viewed on PC
??

imho it should not be... the number of colours is the same (65K)...
what other settings could be different? camera quality?
i saw (on other forums) pics taken by this 2 phones and the quality seems to be the same...

and about the screen size I think is very well compensated by the size of the phone !!!
it is still a phone (confortably in the pocket) not a "hudge and ugly easter egg" like 6600...

i can hardly wait some contra-opinions, but well documented about image & photos quality comparison

and what about OS used by 6230? maybe it is not Symbian like 6600 which means that unfortunately is not a smart-phone like 6600...
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ThreeD please do us(/me) a favor, change the mp3s on the 128mb mmc into ringtones and see if it works
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6600 is Series60 (Symbian) and 6230 is Series40 (proprietary) phones, which makes them TOTALLY different.
You can debate which one you like more or less, but direct comparison would not be valid. Compare then Communicator with e.g. 3310 - one is big, the other is small, but does it mean anything?

Again for those who didn't get it still:
6230 is NOT a Symbian phone
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Originally posted by Neil
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and about the screen size I think is very well compensated by the size of the phone !!!
it is still a phone (confortably in the pocket) not a "hudge and ugly easter egg" like 6600...
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well many other manufators are able to squeeze in a bigger screen in a small candybar.

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Originally posted by ThreeD
The screen in itself is 128x128, but it has a true tft screen with 65k colors. In general the phone has a great screen if the 128x128 size doesn't bother you.


It is more than just looking at the number of colours.
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[quote]Originally posted by grabben
well many other manufators are able to squeeze in a bigger screen in a small candybar.

But at the expense of the keypad, which is one of the most used and important parts of the phone.
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Junker

T630 has a good keypad, and the screen is alsow a very important part of the phone.
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I understand the screen is important but I can live with 6230 screen, the T630 has better keypad than T610 but stil a bit close.

I do think its a good phone though, I really wanted T610 before I tried the keypad. I think looks wise it is one of the best!
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Originally posted by D-Off
6600 is Series60 (Symbian) and 6230 is Series40 (proprietary) phones, which makes them TOTALLY different.
You can debate which one you like more or less, but direct comparison would not be valid. Compare then Communicator with e.g. 3310 - one is big, the other is small, but does it mean anything?

Again for those who didn't get it still:
6230 is NOT a Symbian phone
thankx! i got it...
but i meant what are the main advantages of 6600 against 6230 due to this OS difference
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what are the main advantages of 6600 against 6230 due to this OS difference
Extra applications are.
The difference is like between a game concole and a computer: one can play game(s) (probably very good games) and the other can play games AS WELL as do something else useful.

OS for running apps is what it makes "smart", makes 6600 a PDA with phone capabilities (or phone with PDA if you will). Please note that Symbian apps you can run, have interfaces to all phone functionalities, don't limit the scope by games only. 6600 could be anything from IR-remote for your TV to a sophisticated answering machine, maintaining white/black lists, making appointments in the calendar, sending emails for you etc... All you need is to install an application.

Well, java support provides some kind of flexibility for non-Symbian devices, but it is far more limited.
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Mainframe AI works just fine using mp3's as ringtons on a 128MMC the phone is still rockin, with no problems whatsoever! No need for software upgrades or any kind of problems so far..
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can the facia/housing on 6230 changeble?
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righto thanks dude

what brand mmc is it?
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6230 housing is changeble....

and the photo quality takenby 6230 is better than the 6600....this can prove by taking a photo with far scene...once I saw a photo comparison on a website...now I am searching for it...will post the both photo soon...
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how much is it with vat, and please state the currency

i'm so looking forward to buying this phone, loved it from the first day nokia announced its 'release', about 3 months+ ago
it hasnt arrived yet in my country. (Cyprus)
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i saw a comparison on this french site

also 7200 camra = 6230 camera = 7600 camera

on threegmobile.net, 7200 camera kills 6600 camera

therefore 6230 kills 6600 camera
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Which french site?

In fact:

7600 better than 7200
7200 as good as 6600
and 6600 kills 6230 !!

You can find a lot a pics taken mobiles in the last pages of this thread

You can judge by yourself...
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by the way, can i zoom in and view the pic after i taking the shot?
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i forgot, cuz i deleted my history some time ago

have you not checked threegmobile.net? the 7200 pics ... actually wait i ll get the link

http://www.threegmobile.net/international/index.html

i dont know where i got 7200 = 6230, but somewhere i heard their cameras were of the same production unit.

bear in mind the prototype 6230 camera is horrible
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i found the site... and the latest page says 6600 > 6230

www.planete-nokia.com

i stand corrected

frm many of the pics i see the problem - 6230 is so pale for some reason... those "pale" days might have been sunny, but 6230 turns it all pale
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but the translated page had previously said on its 6230 test

"The quality of the photos is excellente: once on the PERCENT, the quality is as good as on the Nokia 6650, 7600 and 7200 and good so, otherwise better than the Nokia 3650/7650/6600 (and therefore better than the one of the Sony Ericsson P800/P900)."
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I have done a lot of survey in the photo comparison....

so far I found that 6600 has the worst VGA camera among Nokia...

photo taken by 6230 is much better than the one taken by 6600...this can prove by taking the far scene photo with 2 phones...6230 photo is much clearer than the 6600 one...but 6600 wins in photo colour sharpness...

so far i think most people would prefer a clearer photo rather than a colourful but blur photo...
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Originally posted by Mainframe AI
but the translated page had previously said on its 6230 test

"The quality of the photos is excellente: once on the PERCENT, the quality is as good as on the Nokia 6650, 7600 and 7200 and good so, otherwise better than the Nokia 3650/7650/6600 (and therefore better than the one of the Sony Ericsson P800/P900)."
I don't agree with this... The man who wrote the test is not objective... Look at the pictures in the test...

Examples of pics taken with:

- 6230

- 7600

- 6600

- 7200

Found on Nettelecom.org.
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on those pictures the 7600 has got the best quality, but pictures aren't taken on the same day (other lighting)
so you can judge it by that
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Originally posted by Tu!@ng Man photo taken by 6230 is much better than the one taken by 6600...this can prove by taking the far scene photo with 2 phones...6230 photo is much clearer than the 6600 one...but 6600 wins in photo colour sharpness...
I think they are all the same, it all depends on the brightness light, the distance of object to the lens in order to get proper focus, and how your hand sways while you take a shot (a shakey hand = blury shot coz the phone has no flash and shutter). And doing the right combination of this you'll get a nice photo
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take a look at those photo seriously...and u will found that photo taken by 6600 is the blurest....too bad....look like there is gas around...among the photo...7600 wins...
following by 7200...6230 and 6600...
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Originally posted by ThreeD
Been using this phone since friday, and it's amazing! If you have any doubts about wether this phone is worth the wait or not, I'd say squash the doubts and wait for it. It has it all!

A perfect phone, with no problems or hiccups, as many rumours have been stating. And the supply is plenty too, where I work we been receiving phones continuously for the past week, peaking about 20 sales a day

Way to go Nokia!

hi!guy, would you tell me what disadvanage 6230 has?
how about the pic quality taken by 6230?
thanks!
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I can't believe you are actually discussing this seriously!
What is the point to compare one crappy camera with another and trying to find the crappiest one?

With this size and capabilities EVERYTHING matters, e.g. fingerprints on lens cover could make the piucture EXTREMELY blurry.

Afterall all the phones in question could use exactly the same camera module (HW), the only difference is the software... and "better" SW just makes it look better (subjectively), the quality (objectively) remains the same, since CCD has not change!

Don't try to convince others that what you like (subjectively) is really better.

:-)


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