Sunday, June 3, 2007

New Nokias: 6255, 6015, 3205

Phones are for CDMA market. More info and pics about 6255 , 6015 and 3205 .

6255:
- 128 x 160, 65 k + 96 x 65, 4 k displays
- BT, IR, USB
- MIDP 2.0, BREW 2.0
- MMS
- VGA cam with flash
- MP3/AAC -player
- MMC
- Video recorder/player
- GPS
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6255 really looks a lot closer to what the 7200 should have been.
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6255 looks really good ...but :S the screen is still small...why do nokia do this...evey other company has biger displays in the clamshell phones..another thing is its really nice to have flash, but a 1.3 mpx camera with it would look even better..btw this phone is much better then 7200 in specs, but I dont like the design that much its like a box...moto and samsung have great designs for clamshell phones...but thats good fromm nokia as this is only there second clamshell
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6015 would be good with a 128 x 128 screen
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hoping nokia bring some more clamshell devices to the european marked... looks nice, but everything can be better...
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Nokia 6015 and 3205 is nothing special...

6255 is a good improvement from 7200...the 128x160 screen is much more better than the 128x128....

however...why is there an antenna....so ugly...
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Wow... Seems they have remembered the Americas market exist... Look at the competition between Motorola and Nokia... New BT CDMA phones... Nice!! Now I don't know which to choose..
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6255... better than the 7200 as mentioned by tulang man... hehe... looking better.. =)..
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Do u think these phones will be available in Asia...as well as Malaysia??
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Tu!@ng Man
it's a CDMA phone, thats why there is still an antenna... some other CDMA phones still have antenna, something to do with the lenght
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errrmmm...sorry for my outdated....can u explain to me what is CDMA phone??...WCDMA???...3G??...GSM??....and etc....
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it's a network technologie used in some country's like the americas. we use the GSM cellular infrastructure and they use CDMA... both has got there (dis)advatages...

Technology Description

Code Division Multiple Access (CDMA) is a digital wireless technology that was developed by Qualcomm and uses a unique code to distinguish each different call which enables more people to share the airwaves at the same time.

Commercial introduction dates back to 1995, and in 1999 CDMA was adopted as the basis for 3G wireless systems by the ITU.

CDMA spreads the information contained in a signal over a much greater bandwidth than the original signal, a method that has been used by the military for many years. This was originally done to resist jamming efforts as well as hiding the fact that communications are taking place. It also breaks up speech into small digitized segments and encodes them to identify each call allowing for a large number of users to share the same band of spectrum.
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thanks for explaining...

I just found that the 6255 is the first Nokia which has a screen of 128x160...what a nice improvement...I wish this bigger screen will be applied to all the series40 too in the future...
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Originally posted by Tu!@ng Man
thanks for explaining...

I just found that the 6255 is the first Nokia which has a screen of 128x160...what a nice improvement...I wish this bigger screen will be applied to all the series40 too in the future...
There are already two Series 40 phones to the GSM/WCDMA network with 128x160 screen, ie. 6650 and 7600.
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7600?.. isn't that a series 60?... it's symbian right?
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Originally posted by dxreaper
7600?.. isn't that a series 60?... it's symbian right?
Nope, 7600 is Series 40 phone.
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i think nokia is going those screens (128*160) more and more, especionaly for 3G capable phones...
but we'll see more from that in the near future...
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7600 is not series40...is series45...it is not a symbian phone...just 3G....useless in Malaysia....

and 6650 is not available in Malaysia...that is why i have no idea on it....sorry...
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Tu!@ng Man

7600 is series 40 there is no series 45
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ok....as u wish....many people still consider it is series40...as long as u happy with it...but there is a series45...
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...but there is a series45...
Where?? Can you provide a link to some official Nokia page which says that there's Series 45.

And 7600 isn't useless in Malaysia. It's dualmode GSM/WCDMA phone, so it can also operate in normal GSM network. Same goes to 6650.
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But doesn't the 7600 have an os which looks like symbian?.. well. that's what i've always thought...
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Tu!@ng Man

series 45 is unofficaly used for Nokia devices that has got an 128*160 screen and are 3G capable
but Nokia just called them series 40.

quote from forum nokia site (developers site nokia)

"Series 40 phones implement a number of different user interfaces. The most common user interface in
the family has a 12-bit (4,096) color display with 128 x 128 pixel resolution, as found in the Nokia
7210 mobile phone. Series 40 devices also include resolutions of 128 x 160 pixels (the Nokia 6650
imaging phone) and 96 x 65 pixels (the Nokia 3510i mobile phone). Other resolutions may be
introduced in the future."
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dxreaper

yes and no, you have a choice, 1. You leave the menu like it normaly is. the icons on one row down and when pushing down you get the other menu (like most nokia's).
or 2. you get an 3x3 menuicons on one screen, so you can use the arrows to go down, left, right and up to go into another menu all in the same screen...
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7600 is expensive like hell in Malaysia just because of it is a 3G phone...of course it works in Malaysia...but it is no point to have 3G here...if it is not built under 3G...definitely it will cost cheaper and I will go for it...
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in belgium the same, cost 550 Euro, sad, sad sad
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I really like 7600 design....so unigue...so far I haven't seen anyone holding a 7600....I think it is really too expensive...
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Tu!@ng Man

520 Euro is too much money for a series 40 phone. You can buy other mobiles with more features for that money... but it's the design/fashion series of nokia and those always cost a lot more...
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Have you seen the 7600 in real life?.. I saw one.. and I gotta say it looks cheap... especially the part which tries to be leather...
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Do You mean 7200 ?
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Aretee

7600 has bits of leather on it...
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but i thought n6255 is 65k TFT screen?
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The resolution of the primary display is 128 x 160 pixels, with 16-bit color depth (65K colors). When the device is closed, a secondary display is visible with a resolution of 96 x 65 pixels and 12-bit color depth (4K colors).
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krist....so far I am happy with my 6600...symbian is great...I mean I just like the design of 7600...

I dun think that 7600 looks cheap...of course...Nokia is famous for plasticky looking...but 7600 design is unigue...I just...like the design...hehe
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Hmmm, interesting thread. I conclude some of you maybe work at N, since you post such detailed responses.

Someone comments regards the 6255, "the screen is still small...why do nokia do this..."

Does size matter? :-)

OK, I will wander over to the window and see if any Finnish birds are chirping on this subject..

They disagree. It isn't small. This is at least an average size display in absolute (not relative) terms for a clam phone shipping into any region, except Japan, or possibly Korea. In relative terms (screen size/clam phone size) it is slightly undersized compared to best-in-class.

Clam phone displays typically ship around 1.9" diagonal or smaller, but they are creeping up to 2.1" and 2.2" in the very high tier clams. In Japan however, they have gone above 2" some time ago - after all who wants to look at downloaded photos of super hot Japanese "Idol" girlz on a small screen!

Let's guess and say the 6255's display is about 1.8" to 1.9" - not bad.

If you want to take shots at the 6255 displays, start with the pixel map. Go figure. A 120x160 shipping into a market that is at QCIF+ in the mid tier, with QVGA displays starting to creep in in the high tier?

For God sake, Moto shipped the T720 close to 2 years ago, and that had a 120x160 display of similar size, although it wasn't TFT.

You gotta love Nokia for coming in with lagging-edge technology (which costs a lot less, and far easier to source in volume than leading-edge tech.). However, one has to ask: lately has the market given Nokia a kick-in-the-teeth message that it is tired of Nokia's lagging-edge technology?

The display is TFT of course, but the optics (color strength, balance, and contrast) are not best-in-class. Compare this phone next to a v300/v600 family QCIF+ main display and you will see what I mean.

In terms of display brightness, rumor is the 6255 main display is very well lit.

The external display is not nearly as well lit, and suffers also from somewhat sub-par optics. Is it TFT? I don't think so.

However, the phone is nice looking, far better than 7200.

*chirp*
*chirp*
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errrmmm...sorry for my outdated....can u explain to me what is CDMA phone??...WCDMA???...3G??...GSM??....and etc....

from what i know, the most common(GSM) phones are based on GSM technology which is mostly for relatively smaller areas of dense population(eg. like cities, which aren't big, but have lots of people in them).

CDMA is for more widespread signals, and since north america is widespread population evenly all over it, CDMA is more popular as it works better over there

W(wideband)CDMA is one of the few technologies that fuels 3G

3G is third generation mobiles which means video calling.

However, the phone is nice looking, far better than 7200.

matter of tastes really. I mean, the 6255, though it's CDMA, it's got an antenna, which IMO looks really ugly. Then, IMO, 7200 looks unique and quite cool.

so, you cannot just state "far better than 7200"
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'so, you cannot just state "far better than 7200" '

Hmmm, how do I like this latest play?

The Mainframe protests too much, methinks. (protests any less-than-worshipful comment on the 7200, yes protests in posts here, and there, and everywhere!)

Do you monitor the Forums 24x7 for any negative comments on the 7200, jumping out to post seconds after you figure the honor of this beast has been offended?

You gotta be on the product team, OR you were crazy enough to buy one and now it is really starting to bother your pyche that few others were equally foolish?

:-)
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no. i dont have one. and i didnt buy it because its nokias first flip.

but i like its design.

if you did not understand what i was saying, well, i was saying that not what you said was unreasonable, but rather, how you said it.

you could've told everyone that you reckon it looks far better than a 6255 and i won't give a horse's hair. but you can't just state it as if it were a fact, and to prove its not a fact, i stated my opinion

The Mainframe protests too much, methinks. (protests any less-than-worshipful comment on the 7200, yes protests in posts here, and there, and everywhere!)

i protest too much? well tough luck. but if you think i protest too much against people who diss the 7200, i'm here to correct you. i don't. what i do is i open a thread of a title i find interesting, i read the comments, and reply to those comments or the root comment.

is that not what you do, Birdie? read a thread and reply with your own thoughts and opinion?



Do you monitor the Forums 24x7 for any negative comments on the 7200, jumping out to post seconds after you figure the honor of this beast has been offended?

no, i don't. i'm not some maniac who searches for the 7200. and i don't monitor the forums 24x7. I HAVE A LIFE.

and by the way, that chirping finnish whatever stuff is very annoying to me, just thought you'd like to know.


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