WARNING ! fraud

If anyone is searching for a phone on E-bay and they receive an E-mail from a Vasile in Italy offering them a cheap phone IGNORE HE conned me out of 210 euros for a nokia 6600 __________________ did u pay the 210 euros or not?? if u did u can get the money back __________________ Did you use a third party for payment, such as a trust/holding acct? __________________ mrjolly48 It is your own fault really, how on earth N6600 only worth EUR 210.00 anyway... -The Andyman- How to get the money back??? Once I made a transaction by credit card, the goods never delivered to my address, and the payment was already done by my credit card issuer... I paid for something that I've never received, and can't even complain to the credit card issuer... So, just take it as bad luck and move on... Be more careful next time, especially purchasing things through the net... __________________ i though you can get it back if the product didn't reach you... __________________ Jackle Not in my case... When you made a puchase to internet, you should fill all your credit card information, also the 3 digit validation numbers at the back of credit card... And that confirm that you have made a legal and aware transaction which is directly will be billed to your credit card issuer... To claim back the money for purchase that you do not received, it will require an insurance that has been covered up by the credit card issuer... Unfortunately my credit card issuer doens't have that kind of facility, so I got mugged by the damn net transaction... Bad and lousy experience, ever since I terminate the credit card service and change to more reliable credit card issuer that can really protect my right for the transaction I made... Now, I can be more relax, cause the credit card also has an insurance if the products that I bought was flaw or broke by accident... __________________ eccentric You can actually get your money back Visa, MasterCard and American Express has this kind of insurance in Sweden. __________________ McKinley I should have, but the damn credit card issuer keep on blaming me for that transaction... They just won't help, and it took me a month to keep on calling them and ask for their assistance, but at the end it just a wasted efforts... I shall say it is a very risky to make a purchase through internet, and if you really need to, ensure to ask more details from your credit card issuer about their protection of your rights if the vendors turn out as con... __________________ on ebay australia it states if u pay over $350 and do not recieve the goods the person selling can be charged with fraud or sumthing like that __________________ -The Andyman- It doesnt matter what ebay Australia states Fraud is when you don't get what you have payed for. It is offence of the law. __________________ Transaction through internet is very complicated, one should not try without having enough knowledge and experience... Even most credit card issuer not suggesting to make a transaction through intenet... __________________ eccentric Hmm.... that is strange American Express suggest you to buy things on the Internet to get more points. __________________ McKinley I've been using CitiBank Visa for more than 4 years now, and once I call their CSO for information of purchasing stuffs through internet... Well, she was suggesting me to check the website first to ensure the reliability and the good company image... If not certain, better not, that what she suggested me... American Express has an alliances for that, it is a sales & marketing policy to turn us to be become consumers... And I'm pretty sure not all the site is reliable and suggested by American Express, especially those pay site that serve an adult material, drugs, or sort of... Many of them are cons, they are trying to steal your credit card information and then making a transaction under your cost... That is why always aware and extra cautious in making a transaction through credit card... You won't be covered by the credit card issuer, they won't bear your lost... __________________ thanks guys for all your replies BUT.... its my own stupid fault i did it via E-mail not thro E-BAY and they wanted western union transfer which is a cash transfer It sounded liggit when i spoke to him and i was that excited bout getting one now he can't speak english got his address just have to kick his ass on my holiday to italy next year ! NOW... got one on pre-order for next week ;-) (onestopfoneshop - liggit) __________________ mrjolly48 I hope you find this bastard... __________________ Ah well, you're screwed in that case then. Bugger dude __________________ I am now doing business with some guys in Romania but I sent the money via Western Union and I agreed only to give him the code after I receive and check the phones. Without the code they can't touch one cent. (ate least that's what I was told, or is there way to go around it?) __________________ why would they agree to do such a deal? they can be screwed, you can take the phones and not give them the codes!!! i m not saying that you should do that, but all i'm saying is that even in this way there are ways for cheaters to steal, and all that's chabged is that the seller can't steal but the buyer can. so is there a way to make sure that neither of the sides can cheat? __________________ Hartsink - i am from Romania and i'd like to say to you that you are probably 70% screwed! That's because they can get your money without the code, just by giving something to the guy at the desk. Many bastards from my country do this kind of bullshit to foreigners. __________________ Oh, and mrjolly40 that guy Vasile is also from Romania by the name. I hate romanians that go abroad to steal. I hope they die. They spoil our name in world. __________________ Really? But at the post office they told me that it's 100% safe. That the person behind the desk can not see the code and therefore can not access the money. But again I'm gonna have to check with the post. Bsg2g, after all I am the one that can be f*ck*d! __________________ Well, i hope that you do not have any problems. __________________ Hartsink you're probebly right, i dont want to sound like a racist but in israel romanians have a bad name of stealing... if he can slip the guy some money then you're f*c*ed, but i think that buissness should not be done through the net.... __________________ Wha...? Doing business on the internet is one of the safest and quickest ways to do it (in some cases the cheapest) as long as it is done properly. In this case, mrjolly may have been better protected if he'd paid by credit card; he could apply for a chargeback if things went sour (as they did). __________________ over the net shud be fine if u use known and respected web sites such as Amazon.... __________________ i wasn't talking about paying to a known and trustworthy site, they're the best !!!, but when daling with a private person or the black market in many cases you'll get cheated. __________________ A bit of clarification would have been helpful Mavi forum