6230 & 6610i

does anybody know when the 6230 and 6610i will be in the us? will t-moblie carry these units. __________________ both are on the marked in Europe and Azia, so it won't take very long when they'll be available in America... (june, might be july) but some sites claimes that it will be out in August; http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=408 Mavi forum