Iv'e got the 7610 but...

... it doesnt have infrared I thought it did... But it doesn't... Not good.... I use infrared all the time at work... blah... Also, the keys are all weird, they are placed very tight so it is difficult to use them... Too bad... Would have been a great phone otherwise... __________________ didn t u know? about no infrared? __________________ no offense but u probly should have read a bit about the fone before u got it. __________________ its very well known that the 7610 has no IR ! i know it is frustrating.. but its by far nokia best fone ! BUT let me ask u some questions .. was it officially released ? how much did u pay ... tell me all about it man ..i am dying to buy it !!! __________________ its not sposed to be out yet. where did you get it? or is it a prototype? __________________ I have it in my job. I didn't read that much about the phone, and I surely though IR was a sure thing! __________________ what do u mean u have it in your job? are u working for nokia or something ? hehe.. are u trying to say that it hasnt been officially released ? how much did u pay to have it ? tell us more about it please ... __________________ do you want to do something? press *#0000# and post the number/text that appear (normaly 4 lines)? __________________ ... and please attach a picture of the sticker under the battery __________________ IR is not a big problem as long as you have USB cable (DKU-2) or BT... Probably bigger disappointment would be when you'll find out that it does NOT support stereo output. And never will... __________________ well i agree with D-OFF ! with the BT and the USB Cable u wont need infrared, however its a weak point in the N7610. But D-OFF how do u know that it doesnt support stereo output. And never will ?? __________________ no HW for stereo... __________________ i hate this !!! No IR No stereo output !! this sucks !! BUT i am gonna buy it though, hehe.. i am in love with this fone ..any idea about how much would it cost ? __________________ It's stereo, stop spreading that its not. PopPort means stereo! __________________ Quote: Originally posted by kristof.vanriet do you want to do something? press *#0000# and post the number/text that appear (normaly 4 lines)? Guess he doesn't wanna do it lol, there you go V 3.0409.2 05-03-04 RH-51 __________________ Unfortunately phone HW does not support stereo output. Just the fact that it has pop-port does not prove anything. None of the stereo sets is supported. Attempting to connect any of those with pop-connector will result in "Accessory not supported message". Actually stereo has never been either planned nor promised, but entirely based on assumption that pop-port means it all. Too bad because all competitors have this feature by default __________________ What worked was the HDS-3 that came with the Nokia 6230. I reckon these are stereo... and yes, Pop Port DOES mean stereo!! 2 jacks (Ngage example) or Pop Ports means stereo! __________________ Quote: Originally posted by mindhacker V 3.0409.2 05-03-04 RH-51 This is WAY outdated! Early March? It has been even announced later. HW must be outdated too... Does it really work? __________________ Yes, really... God, why would I lie? lol. Yes, very outdated soft version, but I got it last week. I guess all the new ones are even more buggy? This piece of shit always reboots. __________________ ... __________________ Quote: Originally posted by mindhacker Yes, really... God, why would I lie? lol. It was a joke, I did not mean you are lying. Regarding stereo: HDS-3 is not supported and probably only because of outdated SW you did not get "not supported" message. But anyway it was not stereo, connecting stereo speakers to a mono source does not make it stereo, right? ... even if the jack fits ok __________________ What's your source about the 7610 being mono? __________________ I dunno what you think but an MP3 phone that has a Popport CAN'T be mono... even NOKIA wouldnt do this lol __________________ I though that too some time ago... In this case Pop-port is rather for USB than stereo No doubts any more, you can trust my source __________________ it has stereo __________________ Yeah-yeah... Why am I trying to convince someone if it'll become obvious in a few weeks? Believe whatever you want to believe... Bets anyone? __________________ d-off wat makes u so sure? i'm not saying its mono or stereo, but how are u so sure its mono? __________________ foxx Since you are the one with the prototype, maybe you should answer the question of whether if the 7610 has stereo sound or not? __________________ He's not the only one... but his proto is obsolete. Do you think my statements are based on newspaper publications or rumors or what? __________________ D-Off: Saying the 7610 (doesn't support stereo sound) will not make any sense. Not including a stereo headset doesn't mean that it's not stereo. If your so so sure that it doesn't support stereo, then why would Nokia mension that the phone plays MP3/AAC with RealPlayer? then it would be useless, and Nokia knows how it sounds when an MP3 music is played in MONO. I came accross Forum Nokia and found that the 6620, 7610, and N-Gage have the same info regarding Audio sound. It mentioned that all of them plays MP3/AAC files. The question is if the American 6620 plays stereo output music or sound, then why wouldn't the 7610 play stereo sound? __________________ Mono, 100%. Just giving info, not here to argue, wanna believe me good, don't wanna don't care! ANYway we'll see in a couple weeks. __________________ Ahmad007 One last time... - Nokia sells phones NOT because it makes sense to someone. - Nobody was talking about including stereo headset, but supporting - 7610 rejects them all - RealPlayer is the same and has always been capable of playing MP3, it is essential for audio stream decompression. - what is actually supported is mp3 ringtones, because it seems to be enough demanded. From ringtone perspective it is not much different whether it stereo or mono. - what is a relation between 7610 and 6620? How one could affect another? BTW, does 6620 support stereo either? Finally there is no use to post here what you think if you don't know. There plenty of people around who knows without guessing, some of them actually making those phones (designing, prototyping, programming, testing...) - ask them, or ask Nokia. __________________ Quote: - what is a relation between 7610 and 6620? How one could affect another? BTW, does 6620 support stereo either? Ok now don't get mad. YES the 6620 supports stereo output, see the following Nokia 6620 in the Nokia USA link: http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/6620 it says in the features under "Personalization & Fun": "Listen to your favorite MP3 or ACC formatted music with built-in stereo music player" __________________ mindhacker pop-port doesn't mean it's stereo sound, pop-port is able to tranfer stereo sound, but you still need a the soft- or hardware (soundchip) convert it as stereo... if it's software sound is most likely 16Khz sample rate, hardware mp3 decoders mosly the sound is 44 Khz. the quality difference between are huge. the Nokia phones that have a hardware mp3 decorder are 6230, 3300, 5510, 7600 and the N-gage... I thought the 6100 and 3100 are mono and support pop-port. If you want to know what the 14 pin's mean on the buttom, here is a list... Pop-port: (left) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 (right) Screen facing up 1 Charge (V Charge) 2 GND (Charge GND) 3 ACI (ACI - Insertion & removal detection) 4 VOUT (DC out) 5 NC (Not connected) 6 FBUS RX 7 FBUS TX 8 GND (Data GND) 9 XMIC N (Audio in - Ext. Mic input) 10 XMIC P (Audio in - Ext. Mic input) 11 HSEAR N (Audio out - Ext. Audio out - left) 12 HSEAR P (Audio out - Ext. Audio out - left) 13 HSEAR R N (Audio out - Ext. audio out - right) 14 HSEAR R P (Audio out - Ext. audio out - right) __________________ Thanks I confirmed Mono on the 7610, it's 100% mono! __________________ are there radio in ???? __________________ No. Only mono MP3 player.. __________________ Really? I am so surprised... Mavi forum